Ellen Learns about Caitlyn Jenner’s Attitude on Same-Sex Marriage
By Alex Temblador
Caitlyn Jenner recently appeared on The Ellen DeGeneres Show for her first talk show appearance and things got interesting as they always happen to do on Ellen. There was some talk about dating, about Caitlyn’s transition, and even some tough questions concerning marriage equality that kind of had Ellen wondering if Caitlyn Jenner is really on board.
At the beginning of the show, Ellen asked Jenner, “How do you feel?”
And with one word, “Fabulous,” Caitlyn received a huge applause from the audience.
When speaking about her transition, Caitlyn said, “There’s nothing better than to wake up in the morning and be your authentic self.”
Ellen responded, “Yes. I think everyone can relate to that whether you understand this or not. Everyone wants to feel free. Everyone wants to feel good in their own skin.”
During the interview, Ellen asked Caitlyn if she missed “Bruce.”
“Do I miss him. Absolutely no. You know why? Because as a woman I can do all that fun stuff anyways. I can still play golf. I can still go play race cars.”
The toughest question of the interview, at least the one that has people talking, was when Ellen brought up Caitlyn’s conservatism:
“I know you’re very conservative. You’ve said you’re Republican.
A lot of Republicans would vote against all the issues that you as a woman and you as a trans person would want someone to support. And same-sex marriage.”
Caitlyn was very honest with her response:
“I remember 15 years ago, 20 year ago…the marriage issue came up. At first I was not for it. I’m a traditionalist. It’s always been a man and a woman. I’m thinking, ‘I don’t quite get it.’ But as time has gone on, I think like a lot of people on this issue– have really changed your thinking here, to I don’t ever want to stand in front of anybody’s happiness. That’s not my job.
If that word “marriage” is really, really that important to you. I can go with it.”
It was clear that Caitlyn’s response didn’t really sit well with Ellen because she said, “It’s funny because you’re still a little not on board with it.”
Caitlyn said, “No, I’m on board. It’s pretty much the law of the land. I’m okay with that.”
Ellen explained, “Obviously marriage is an important word. Marriage is marriage. Equality is equality. We want the same word that everyone else has. It wouldn’t be civil union. Equality is important for all of us and I think that’s what you’re fighting for with what you’re doing.”
The interview covered other topics such as Caitlyn explaining how she understood that she was trans:
“For me, Jenny Boylan wrote a book and she said in the book, ‘I never felt feminine but I always felt female.’ And to me, that really hit home. I could live in a male world, obviously.
But I was always female inside.”
Ellen asked: “Do you ever think that you would do it differently? Ever wonder, ‘Should I have ever done it earlier?'”
“I’ve thought about that,” Caitlyn said. “For me, it just wasn’t the time. Back in the ‘8os I went through a real difficult time. I lived six years basically by myself up in the mountains in Malibu.
I was on hormones. I thought for sure I was going to transition before I was 40 years of age. I got to 39 and just couldn’t do it.
I thought let’s get back into life and that’s when I met Kris a few months later. For the next 23 years, I raised a family.
I got to this point in my life [recently]. There I was back in Malibu all by myself in a house with the same issues that I had had when I was 10 years old.”
She discussed her decision to transition.
“Maybe this is why God put me on Earth, to tell my story now. I’ve done so much in my life. Maybe now is the time to talk about this issue.”
“Who was the toughest person to tell?” asked Ellen.
“Kris, also my mother,” said Caitlyn. “[Mom] got it really fast. She’s 89 years old. I don’t even think she understood it at the beginning. She’s been great.”
At one point in the interview, Caitlyn mentioned that the New York Times almost wrote a story about her being a cross dresser back in the ‘80s which prompted Ellen to ask, “Why did they almost come out with a story about you being a cross dresser in the ’80s? What information did they have to do that?”
Caitlyn said, “Mostly rumors. At that time I was living by myself and I was on hormones. I think that rumor mill got out and that kind of started that rumor for the next 30 years.”
However it might have been something more. As Ellen mentioned in the show, Caitlyn used to wear a bra and pantyhose while giving motivational speeches in the ‘80s as Bruce Jenner.
The Caitlyn revealed this: “I would literally go back to the hotel room, cross dress, walk out around the hotel.”
Ellen quickly asked, “They couldn’t recognize you? I think I would recognize if it was Bruce Jenner dressed as a woman.”
“They don’t expect me to be in that position so you could be a little more stealthy that way. I never got caught, never had a problem.”
Of course, Ellen had to ask what the gossip mill is now wondering: “Are you going to date men, women, what are you doing?”
Caitlyn didn’t give a complete answer:
“This is a tremendous issue with the trans community. Everybody wants to have a partner and everybody wants to have a family.
For me, I’m at such a different place in life. I’ve already had too many children. Just kidding.
I’ve kind of passed that stage in life. Would I like to find a partner to share my life with? Yeah. I’m sure I will at some point.
I’m kind of getting used to where I’m at, who I’m at.”
Ellen clearly has a favorite in terms of who she’d like Jenner to date, “Will it be Candis?” Candis Cayne is a trans woman and Caitlyn’s friend who appears on Caitlyn’s show quite often.
“Actually Candice is backstage,” Jenner replied.
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